August 1, 2023
Take 5: Client research interviews, sales & marketing templates, + more
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<span style="font-size:20px;"><strong>1. Key tips for conducting client research interviews</strong></span></p></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="text_block block-3" role="presentation" style="mso-table-lspace:0;mso-table-rspace:0;word-break:break-word" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="pad" style="padding-bottom:10px;padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;padding-top:10px"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><div class="" style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;mso-line-height-alt:18px;color:#000;line-height:1.5"><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px"><span style="font-size:16px;">Doing client research interviews is an integral part of more confidently honing in on your ideal customer and your niche. </span></p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:18px"> </p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;background-color:#ffdf8f;">Talking to potential customers is what will reveal the key insights that will help you hone your niche.</span></p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:18px"> </p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;">You should be repeating this process for every archetype you’re interested in. It’s important to take the time to do this so that you are able to get a well-rounded look at how your niche can map onto different customer needs.</span></p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:18px"> </p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;">When conducting your interviews, here are some tips and things to watch for:</span></p><ul style="line-height:1.5;mso-line-height-alt:24px;font-size:16px"><li><span style="font-size:16px;">Avoid doing demos, presentations, or selling your product.</span></li><li>Ask open-ended questions and let people talk.</li><li>Remember that It’s about them, not focusing on your product or service.</li><li>
Get comfortable with silence—sometimes people need a minute to gather their thoughts or think through an answer.</li><li>
Dive deep and find the hidden motivations! This is the “why behind the why” part of an interview. For example, if you ask an SAT student if getting a tutor is important to them, they might say yes. To dig deeper, you might ask them why, and learn that it’s to get a good SAT score. Ask for the “why” behind getting a good SAT score, and you’ll discover that they want to get into a good college. Ask for the “why” again, and you will discover their core motivation, such as societal pressure or wanting to be successful.
</li><li>Send a follow-up thank you note for their time and ask for any introductions.</li></ul><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px"><span style="font-size:16px;"><strong>Get a step by step guide to conducting client research interviews in <em>Hone Your Freelancing Client Niche</em></strong><a href="http://email.runpollen.com/e/c/eyJlIjoxMjU2ODEsImVtYWlsX2lkIjoiZXhhbXBsZSIsImhyZWYiOiJodHRwczovL2FwcC5ydW5wb2xsZW4uY29tL3BsYXlib29rcy8xZDViMWVhYi1iOWI5LTQyOWEtYWMzOS1mYTU2OGFkMGMzNWU_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPTglMkYxK1dhaXRsaXN0K05ld3NsZXR0ZXIrJTI4bmV3JTI5XHUwMDI2dXRtX2NvbnRlbnQ9OCUyRjErd2FpdGxpc3QrbmV3c2xldHRlclx1MDAyNnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWxfYWN0aW9uXHUwMDI2dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1jdXN0b21lci5pbyIsInQiOjE3MDc5NDcxNjB9/a249f08a3d387d5d143d6b82d98ae53fd6f1e1298cd8e45462fcc89e0b26cd81" style="text-decoration: underline; color: #343446;"></a><strong><em>.</em></strong></span></p></div></div>
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<span style="font-size:16px;">When setting your rates and income goals, you need to take into consideration all your expenses. Although remember, income goals do not equal expenses.</span></p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:18px"> </p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;">If you’re transitioning to a full-time freelance role, business expenses may be new expenses that weren’t previously in your budget, including:</span></p><ul style="line-height:1.5;mso-line-height-alt:24px;font-size:16px"><li><span style="font-size:16px;">Office supplies</span></li><li>Software</li><li>Hardware (additional monitors, ergonomic tools)</li><li>Subscriptions (like project management tools)</li>
<li>Business insurance</li><li>Legal and accounting fees</li><li>Advertising</li><li>Professional development</li><li>Office space</li><li>Contractors or hired help </li></ul><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;">Consider any other new expenses that may have not previously shown up on your bank statements. Maybe you’re considering a business investment, such as professional development. It’s important to do proper research to determine the average annual cost of your new expense. </span></p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:18px"> </p><p style="margin:0;font-size:16px;mso-line-height-alt:24px">
<span style="font-size:16px;"><strong>Get more expense planning info and a workbook in </strong><strong><em>Set Your Hourly Rate</em></strong><strong><em>.</em></strong></span></p></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" class="divider_block block-8" role="presentation" style="mso-table-lspace:0;mso-table-rspace:0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="pad"><div align="center" class="alignment"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" role="presentation" style="mso-table-lspace:0;mso-table-rspace:0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="divider_inner" style="font-size:1px;line-height:1px;border-top:1px solid #bbb"><span> </span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="text_block block-9" role="presentation" style="mso-table-lspace:0;mso-table-rspace:0;word-break:break-word" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="pad" style="padding-bottom:10px;padding-left:20px;padding-right:20px;padding-top:10px"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><div class="" style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;mso-line-height-alt:18px;color:#000;line-height:1.5"><p style="margin:0;mso-line-height-alt:30px"><span style="font-size:20px;"><strong>3. Find more clients by...</strong></span></p></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><table border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" class="divider_block block-10" role="presentation" style="mso-table-lspace:0;mso-table-rspace:0" width="100%">
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